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Remote Vibe Coding
4/09/2025
Pete Winn, Andy David
Pete and Andy talk about remote AI development while Pete's traveling, using 'Wingman' for voice-driven coding and overnight AI security reviews with "Grug Brain Developer" principles.
They compare Claude Code (the overeager "dog with two dicks" that wants to build everything) versus Goose for planning and docs, why speaking ideas beats typing for ideation, and their strong feelings about chat interfaces versus structured documentation.
Plus they dig into when AI agents get stuck in debugging loops and the missing tools to turn big plans into actual work.
Description
Pete and Andy explore advanced AI agent workflows, the evolution of AI coding tools, and strategies for building sustainable development practices while Pete is away doing "vibe coding and freedom tech" work.
Key Discussion Points:
*Remote AI Development & Wingman Evolution (03:00-15:00)*Pete demonstrates how geographic separation enhances AI-powered development, using his Wingman system to continue building while traveling. Discussion of voice-driven ideation versus typing, and the cognitive benefits of speaking ideas into existence without syntax distractions.
*Trigger-Based Automation & Overnight Jobs (15:00-25:00)*Introduction of Wingman's new trigger system allowing file-based automation and scheduled tasks. Pete's breakthrough with overnight security reviews using "Grug Brain Developer" principles to audit code changes and identify complexity concerns while he sleeps.
*Claude Code vs. Goose: The Dual-Agent Approach (28:00-32:00)*Analysis of using different AI models for different cognitive tasks - Claude Code as the enthusiastic "drunk writer" for rapid development, Goose as the thoughtful "sober editor" for planning and documentation. The "dog with two dicks problem" of Claude Code's over-eagerness to build.
*Documentation Architecture & Anti-Slack Philosophy (32:00-40:00)*Strong critique of chat-based interfaces for knowledge work. Pete's systematic approach to moving valuable insights from chat conversations into structured Obsidian documentation, and why real-time messaging tools damage business focus and inspiration.
*AI Agent Loop Problems & Root Cause Analysis (41:00-50:00)*Technical discussion of when Claude Code gets stuck in debugging loops due to hard-coded values and scope creep. Solutions include using different AI models for root cause analysis and implementing background auditing agents to catch coding mistakes.
*Design-First Development & Planning Orchestration (50:00-59:00)*The importance of spending more time in ideation and design phases before coding. Discussion of missing orchestration tools to convert comprehensive documentation into manageable work packages, and the trade-offs between YOLO development and structured planning.
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The Good Stuff is a low-fi dialogue with Pete Winn and Andy David.
Each week, we share our everyday experiences working with artificial intelligence and how it's fundamentally changing the rules of work and business, the economy, entrepreneurship, and human potential. We explore the ripple effects, unintended consequences, and emerging opportunities as AI transforms how we work and create, diving into the tools and technology we're using each week.
Expect a mix of chats out of the back of a van at the beach, walking interviews and general use of dialectic and discussion with insightful guests that lift the lid on complex topics. Chilled out, minimal jargon, authentic.
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