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Vibe Building
13/08/2025
Pete Winn, Andy David
Pete and Andy prove that public accountability works—they actually shipped the projects they promised last episode. Pete launches Fat Controller, a Nostr scheduling tool that evolved from solving his own timezone problems, while Andy gets his autonomous "Hype Man" CMO operational, creating and publishing social content from podcast transcripts.
The conversation dives into their evolving development workflows, comparing Claude Code's targeted precision with Cursor's orchestrated complexity, and explores Pete's "Wingman" setup—a dedicated Mac Mini that lets him code from his phone using voice transcription. They wrestle with the meta-optimization trap of spending more time perfecting AI workflows than building actual products, and tease their vision for "vibe startups"—going from idea to launched company in a single day.
Description
A follow-up to their accountability session from last week, Pete and Andy report back on actually shipping products to completion. This episode covers their successes with Fat Controller and Hype Man, explores new development workflows with Claude Code, and discusses the evolution of AI-assisted coding practices.
Key Discussion Points: Accountability Check-In: Mission Accomplished (01:31-03:06)
Follow-up from last week's therapy session about finishing projects
Pete releases Fat Controller 20 minutes before recording
Andy gets Hype Man operational as an autonomous CMO
The importance of shipping something people can actually use and pay for
Fat Controller: Nostr Scheduling Tool (03:34-09:02)
Built to solve Pete's timezone posting problem on Nostr
Features: GIF support, satellite CDN integration, secure keychain storage (Mac only)
Evolved from local-only to supporting remote signers for hosted version
Redesigned signing architecture for better remote compatibility
Released as open source with value-for-value model
Nostr vs Twitter: A Healthier Social Environment (10:22-11:46)
Andy's first official week on Nostr - hasn't felt compelled to check Twitter
More invigorating and motivating environment
Zap payments add meaningful interaction layer
Less negative energy compared to Twitter/X
Hype Man: Autonomous CMO for Podcast Content (12:44-19:02)
Multi-agent system that extracts insights from podcast transcripts
Creates and publishes social media content automatically
Iterative improvement process: removed research agent, added review agent
Cost-constrained testing with DeepSeek, upgraded to Claude for better output
Reflection agents as key pattern for improving AI output quality
Claude Code vs Cursor: Development Tool Comparison (51:55-54:39)
Claude Code excelling at small, targeted changes
Cursor better for complex, orchestrated implementations
Claude Code's agentic loops provide better multi-step problem solving
Both tools serve different phases of the development process
Wingman: Remote Development Environment (36:41-51:17)
Mac Mini as dedicated AI development server with 24/7 availability
Terminal-based workflows accessible from phone via voice transcription
Menu-driven system for common development tasks
Segregated environment philosophy: give AI full access to designated machines
Mobile coding: voice-to-terminal transcription enabling "vibe coding" from anywhere
AI Development Workflow Evolution (55:01-01:02:02)
Three modes: drunk idea capture, sober editing, drunk coding
Need for seamless idea-to-implementation pipeline
Tutorial mode: AI explaining reasoning behind architectural decisions
Balancing speed vs learning in AI-assisted development
The Meta-Optimization Trap (01:02:55-01:03:30)
Danger of spending more time optimizing AI workflows than building actual products
"Sharpening the axe forever" - when process improvement becomes procrastination
Finding balance between efficiency and productivity
AI-Native Business Strategy Discussion (23:05-27:54)
Debate: Transform existing businesses vs. build AI-native competitors
Unit economics advantage of AI-native companies
Venture funding opportunities for dramatically improved cost structures
Private equity interest in AI transformation strategies
Looking Glass: Screen Recording Tool (29:53-35:50)
Weekend project to replace Screen Studio subscription
Real-time vs post-processing architecture decisions
Part of broader strategy to reduce SaaS subscriptions and build local tools
Working prototype with keyboard shortcuts and lightweight toolbar interface
Future Projects: First Pass and Speed Run (01:07:17-01:11:59)
Vision for idea-to-prototype pipeline
Speed Run workshop concept: build entire company in one day
Integration of existing tools (Pipeline, Wingman, Claude Code) into cohesive workflow
Vibe startups: from idea to launched product with full departments
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The Good Stuff is a low-fi dialogue with Pete Winn and Andy David.
Each week, we share our everyday experiences working with artificial intelligence and how it's fundamentally changing the rules of work and business, the economy, entrepreneurship, and human potential. We explore the ripple effects, unintended consequences, and emerging opportunities as AI transforms how we work and create, diving into the tools and technology we're using each week.
Expect a mix of chats out of the back of a van at the beach, walking interviews and general use of dialectic and discussion with insightful guests that lift the lid on complex topics. Chilled out, minimal jargon, authentic.
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Email: info@otherstuff.studio
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