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Vibe Building

13/08/2025

Pete Winn, Andy David

Pete and Andy prove that public accountability works—they actually shipped the projects they promised last episode. Pete launches Fat Controller, a Nostr scheduling tool that evolved from solving his own timezone problems, while Andy gets his autonomous "Hype Man" CMO operational, creating and publishing social content from podcast transcripts.
The conversation dives into their evolving development workflows, comparing Claude Code's targeted precision with Cursor's orchestrated complexity, and explores Pete's "Wingman" setup—a dedicated Mac Mini that lets him code from his phone using voice transcription. They wrestle with the meta-optimization trap of spending more time perfecting AI workflows than building actual products, and tease their vision for "vibe startups"—going from idea to launched company in a single day.

Description

A follow-up to their accountability session from last week, Pete and Andy report back on actually shipping products to completion. This episode covers their successes with Fat Controller and Hype Man, explores new development workflows with Claude Code, and discusses the evolution of AI-assisted coding practices.  


Key Discussion Points: Accountability Check-In: Mission Accomplished (01:31-03:06)

  • Follow-up from last week's therapy session about finishing projects

  • Pete releases Fat Controller 20 minutes before recording

  • Andy gets Hype Man operational as an autonomous CMO

  • The importance of shipping something people can actually use and pay for

Fat Controller: Nostr Scheduling Tool (03:34-09:02)

  • Built to solve Pete's timezone posting problem on Nostr

  • Features: GIF support, satellite CDN integration, secure keychain storage (Mac only)

  • Evolved from local-only to supporting remote signers for hosted version

  • Redesigned signing architecture for better remote compatibility

  • Released as open source with value-for-value model

Nostr vs Twitter: A Healthier Social Environment (10:22-11:46)

  • Andy's first official week on Nostr - hasn't felt compelled to check Twitter

  • More invigorating and motivating environment

  • Zap payments add meaningful interaction layer

  • Less negative energy compared to Twitter/X

Hype Man: Autonomous CMO for Podcast Content (12:44-19:02)

  • Multi-agent system that extracts insights from podcast transcripts

  • Creates and publishes social media content automatically

  • Iterative improvement process: removed research agent, added review agent

  • Cost-constrained testing with DeepSeek, upgraded to Claude for better output

  • Reflection agents as key pattern for improving AI output quality

Claude Code vs Cursor: Development Tool Comparison (51:55-54:39)

  • Claude Code excelling at small, targeted changes

  • Cursor better for complex, orchestrated implementations

  • Claude Code's agentic loops provide better multi-step problem solving

  • Both tools serve different phases of the development process

Wingman: Remote Development Environment (36:41-51:17)

  • Mac Mini as dedicated AI development server with 24/7 availability

  • Terminal-based workflows accessible from phone via voice transcription

  • Menu-driven system for common development tasks

  • Segregated environment philosophy: give AI full access to designated machines

  • Mobile coding: voice-to-terminal transcription enabling "vibe coding" from anywhere

AI Development Workflow Evolution (55:01-01:02:02)

  • Three modes: drunk idea capture, sober editing, drunk coding

  • Need for seamless idea-to-implementation pipeline

  • Tutorial mode: AI explaining reasoning behind architectural decisions

  • Balancing speed vs learning in AI-assisted development

The Meta-Optimization Trap (01:02:55-01:03:30)

  • Danger of spending more time optimizing AI workflows than building actual products

  • "Sharpening the axe forever" - when process improvement becomes procrastination

  • Finding balance between efficiency and productivity

AI-Native Business Strategy Discussion (23:05-27:54)

  • Debate: Transform existing businesses vs. build AI-native competitors

  • Unit economics advantage of AI-native companies

  • Venture funding opportunities for dramatically improved cost structures

  • Private equity interest in AI transformation strategies

Looking Glass: Screen Recording Tool (29:53-35:50)

  • Weekend project to replace Screen Studio subscription

  • Real-time vs post-processing architecture decisions

  • Part of broader strategy to reduce SaaS subscriptions and build local tools

  • Working prototype with keyboard shortcuts and lightweight toolbar interface

Future Projects: First Pass and Speed Run (01:07:17-01:11:59)

  • Vision for idea-to-prototype pipeline

  • Speed Run workshop concept: build entire company in one day

  • Integration of existing tools (Pipeline, Wingman, Claude Code) into cohesive workflow

  • Vibe startups: from idea to launched product with full departments

Check out more episodes

The Good Stuff is a low-fi dialogue with Pete Winn and Andy David.

 

Each week, we share our everyday experiences working with artificial intelligence and how it's fundamentally changing the rules of work and business, the economy, entrepreneurship, and human potential. We explore the ripple effects, unintended consequences, and emerging opportunities as AI transforms how we work and create, diving into the tools and technology we're using each week.

Expect a mix of chats out of the back of a van at the beach, walking interviews and general use of dialectic and discussion with insightful guests that lift the lid on complex topics. Chilled out, minimal jargon, authentic.

 

Connect With Us:

Email: info@otherstuff.studio

Pete: https://x.com/Pete_Winn

Andy: https://x.com/andymdavid

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